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James Gunn Says Batman Is “Boring,” Claims He Has a Plan to Fix Him in the DCU

December 18, 2025  ·
  Marvin Montanaro
Arkham Batman Death

The apparent death of the Arkham Batman in Rocksteady's epic flop Suicide Squad: Kill The Justice League - YouTube, Dan Allen Gaming

James Gunn is once again talking about Batman — and once again, it’s raising eyebrows.

In an interview with Rolling Stone from back in June, Gunn openly suggested that Batman has effectively run out of storytelling value, calling the character “boring” due to decades of exposure across comics, television, and film. While Gunn insists he has a plan for the Dark Knight within the DC Universe, his comments are already fueling concern among fans who have reservations about the brooding and serious Batman in the hands of a director with Gunn’s portfolio of zany comedic films.

James Gunn

James Gunn sits for an interview – YouTube, GQ

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This time, however, Gunn’s remarks go further than vague reassurances. He explicitly frames Batman as a creative problem that needs justification simply to exist — a striking position given that Batman remains one of the most consistently successful and popular characters in entertainment history.

When asked by Rolling Stone what needs to be figured out to make Batman work in the DCU, Gunn responded:

“Batman has to have a reason for existing, right? So Batman can’t just be ‘Oh, we’re making a Batman movie because Batman’s the biggest character in all of Warner Bros.,’ which he is. But because there’s a need for him in the DCU and a need that he’s not exactly the same as Matt’s Batman. But yet he’s not a campy Batman. I’m not interested in that. I’m not interested in a funny, campy Batman, really. So we’re dealing with that. I think I have a way in, by the way. I think I really know what it’s — I just am dealing with the writer to make sure that we can make it a reality.”

The framing is notable. Gunn isn’t talking about expanding Batman’s mythology or building on existing strengths — he’s talking about justifying Batman’s presence at all.

That framing becomes even more blunt when the discussion turns to Wonder Woman, which Gunn contrasts directly with Batman.

Snyderverse Superman, Wonder Woman, and Batman

Henry Cavill, Gal Gadot, and Ben Affleck as the Snyderverse Superman, Wonder Woman, and Batman – HBO Max

“Wonder Woman I think is actually easier for me, because there haven’t been so many infinite portrayals of Wonder Woman — definitely not in movies, but really anywhere — that there have been of Batman,” he said. “Every single Batman story has been told. It seems like half the comics that have come out of DC over the past 30 years have Batman in them. He’s the most famous superhero in the world and the most popular superhero in the world. And people love him because he’s interesting, but also having so much of him out there can also make him boring. So how do you create that property that’s fun to watch?”

That last line is doing a lot of work — and not in a reassuring way.

Lego Batman: Legacy of The Dark Knight

Batman and Bane in Lego Batman: Legacy – YouTube, DC

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Gunn isn’t merely acknowledging franchise fatigue. He is declaring, outright, that “every single Batman story has been told,” and that the character’s popularity has become a liability rather than a strength. For many fans, that sentiment feels disconnected from reality, especially coming on the heels of The Batman, which demonstrated that audiences are still very much willing to show up for grounded, character-driven takes on Bruce Wayne.

More importantly, Gunn’s comments reinforce a pattern that has followed him throughout his DC tenure: framing legacy characters as problems that need to be re-engineered rather than icons to be respected.

While Gunn insists he is not interested in a “campy” Batman, he also offers no concrete details about what his alternative actually looks like — only that he believes he has “a way in,” provided the writing aligns with his vision. That lack of specificity is unlikely to reassure a fanbase already wary of sweeping creative resets and long development delays.

James Gunn Peacemaker Trailer

James Gunn introduces the trailer for Peacemaker Season 2 – YouTube, DC

There is also an underlying contradiction in Gunn’s argument. Batman is described as both “boring” and indispensable — the biggest character Warner Bros. has, yet one whose existence now needs narrative permission. That tension raises a fundamental question: if Gunn truly believes Batman has been exhausted creatively, why is he the one tasked with reinventing him?

For longtime DC fans, the concern isn’t that Batman needs another reinvention. It’s that Gunn seems determined to deconstruct what already works in favor of a theoretical solution that exists only on paper.

At a time when DC Studios is still trying to regain audience trust after years of instability, publicly labeling its most reliable character as creatively spent is a risky move — especially when the promised fix remains undefined.

Batman

A screenshot from Batman: Arkham City – Game of the Year Edition (2012), Rocksteady Studios

Whether Gunn’s plan ultimately revitalizes Batman or becomes another example of overthinking a proven formula remains to be seen. For now, what’s clear is that Gunn isn’t approaching Batman from a place of reverence — but from a belief that the character himself is the problem.

And for many fans, that’s the most troubling takeaway of all.

Do you want to see James Gunn get his hands on Batman? Sound off in the comments and let us know!

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Author: Marvin Montanaro
Marvin Montanaro is the Editor-in-Chief of That Park Place and a seasoned entertainment journalist with nearly two decades of experience across multiple digital media outlets and print publications. He joined That Park Place in 2024, bringing with him a passion for theme parks, pop culture, and film commentary. Based in Orlando, Florida, Marvin regularly visits Walt Disney World and Universal Orlando, offering firsthand reporting and analysis from the parks. He’s also the creative force behind the Tooney Town YouTube channels, where he appears as his satirical alter ego, Marvin the Movie Monster. Montanaro’s insights are rooted in years of real-world reporting and editorial leadership. He can be reached via email at mmontanaro@thatparkplace.com SOCIAL MEDIA: X: http://x.com/marvinmontanaro Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/marvinmontanaro Facebook: https://facebook.com/marvinmontanaro Email: mmontanaro@thatparkplace.com
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KenReighard

Holy Stupid Ideas, Batman!!

devilman013

“Every single Batman story has been told“

This line right here is the ultimate proof that James Gunn is nothing but a hack.

Any self-respecting creative knows that there are always stories to tell, as long as someone is creative enough to come up with them. There is no such thing as “every story has been told”. Anyone who says that and actually believes it’s true is admitting that they have no creativity or imagination, and such a person should not be put in charge of a major movie studio.

KenReighard

Plus, because he’s BATMAN!!!

James Eadon

You have a point, but there is also such a thing as “tropes”. Tropes that were fresh in the 80s and 90s have now been repeated to death, to the point of cliché. I watched “Justice League” Schnider cut, and it was 2 hours of tropes, on and on. It was laborious to grind through. And that’s just ONE movie.
So, it IS harder to tell a superhero now, than 20 or 30 years ago. We’ve seen it all.

James Eadon

All Batman appearances in movies etc since around 2010 have, indeed, been boring. They emasculated him, and made him into some lame emo in politically correct movies. It’s all so tiresome.
As for Gunn, he is a one-trick pony, and even Guardians was copied from other works, and ripped off from some writer, allegedly, for which he stole all the credit.
The guy is a hack. Like Tarantino, who has been useless since Pulp Fiction, which, too, was copied from other movies, but brilliantly so.
The real creatives are fired, because DEI. So we’re left with DEI slop movies. And, guess what? We’ve stopped going to the cinema.

James Eadon

Batman isn’t a “superhero”. He lacks superhero powers. (Give or take implausible, cartoon physics). That stuff where he beats Superman…. Impossible.

James Eadon

So, Gunn is stating that Batman suffers from “superhero fatigue”. Well, there is also such a thing as “Gunn Fatigue”. Critical Drinker says he’s gone from liking his movies to despising his movies. This is probably typical of the Superhero fanbase, who are fed up with Hollywood using girl bosses to beat up their heroes, goofy crap like Gunn / Marvel “humour”, and feminist script writing.

Tommy Doyle

Batman was fine just the way he is. He the last relevant character that has trust. If Gunn ruins Batman, I’m tapped out of his fake DCU

Tom Anderson

Let Gunn cook. He’s right about the volume and iterations of Batman stories that have been told. Within the last 13 years we’ve literally had three different cinema story lines with Batman portrayed by Bale, Affleck, and Pattinson. I put off seeing The Batman because my first reaction to another Batman movie was, “again?”

It’s reassuring to me that Gunn knows where Batman stands in the pantheon of DC heroes, wants an authentic-not campy-Batman, and is looking for an entry point and perspective that is different than the prior ~10 movies featuring Batman.

CleatusDefeatus

No. He sucks. There’s no additional ‘Michelin *star coming his way for his lame treatment to the dcu.

You seem duplicitous. You showed as a premium, yet you’ve skirted around issues.

I assume your jim gunn, or some gunn/ zaslav approved interference.

Tom Anderson

Haha. Sorry to disappoint. Just a nerd, husband, and Dad of three kids.

Gunn isn’t perfect. I just finished season 2 of Peacemaker and here are some thoughts:

1. The reference that Jesus Christ was “big” in the racist, fascist, all-white dimension was awful. I’m a Christian. The line clearly was meant to link Jesus Christ, my Lord and Savior and the only truly good man to ever live, to white supremacy and whites only. It is awful, a false insinuation, and immediately took me out of the episode. I’m planning to write Gunn about this.

2. Season 2 was not as good as season 1.

Also, I have not “skirted around issues.”

Last edited 3 months ago by Tom Anderson
devilman013

Gunn doesn’t know a damn thing.

If he did, he’d know that there are many aspects of Batman that have never even been touched in movies. I could look through the comics and come up with a concept right now for a Batman movie that would be different than what we’ve seen in theaters.

So if James Gunn can’t come up with a different idea for a Batman movie, then he is not the man to be deciding the future of DC movies.